13/039,530 METHOD OF PREPARING CERAMIC POWDERS USING CHELATE PRECURSORS - Abandoning the Hansen Recipe???

[devotEE]

Claims 9, 19, 24, 27 all seem to delete reference to the "Hansen" type CMBT.

Interestingly claim 8 calls for CMBT consisting of BCZT and that includes at least one other metal element.

So, while several elements are listed in the claims, could it be just one multi-valent metal? Hummmm.

We are living in a wiggly world.

11% of any quantity is a shit ton.

[wifesaidnoeestory]

The affidavits say they are using at least 5 metals.

[eestatic]

could it be just one multi-valent metal?

This would/could indicate what?

[HoaryBat]

It's a multivitamin with minerals and antioxidants

[devotEE]

IDK and IDK. But they didn't say at least two. At least one is a more inclusive statement, so there is no affirmative conclusion. I have inferred that two (or more) would be employed as "donor-acceptor" pairs for increasing the permittivity. Perhaps that is not necessary. Wir werden sehen.

eestatic said:

could it be just one multi-valent metal?

This would/could indicate what?

[DAP]

"So, while several elements are listed in the claims, could it be just one multi-valent metal?"

Claim 1 requires Ba, Ca, Ti, and one of Zr, Mn, Y, La, or Nd.  Dependent claim 8 requires Ba, Ca, Ti, and Zr; plus one more metal element.  This claim will be considered to be 'indefinite' by an examiner.  Expect it to be ultimately amended to recite "that includes a least one other metal element as part of the perovskite structure, wherein said metal element is selected from [a list of metal elements].

[devotEE]

DAP,

You RULE!

[devotEE]

Another Final Rejection a couple of days ago.

We are living in a wiggly world.

11% of any quantity is a shit ton.