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Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists

Started this discussion. Last reply by ee-tom 2 hours ago. 14 Replies

To recap the debate thus far:AD2 posted a link to a hysterical, fear-mongering article which claimed (wrongly) that despite government testing, there are dangerous levels of radioactive materials in…Continue

Isentropic, Ltd. Pumped Heat Energy Storage (PHES)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lensman Apr 2. 13 Replies

Continuing the discussion from another thread...JCatania said:Lensman, the CC [Combined Cycle power plant] record is not of interest. Then why did you bring up the subject?I'm well aware of the…Continue

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ee-tom replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"I'm not really attacking, just pointing out that the residual mixed radioactivity - which is what these scare stories seem to be about - is too low to be significant compared with natural sources. So whether it is harmful or not should not be…"
2 hours ago
WalksOnDirt replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Japan isn't safe.  The earthquake and tidal wave did much more damage than the Fukishima power plant did.  That doesn't mean power plant safety improvements aren't needed, or that they are not being done.  It will…"
2 hours ago
Y_Po replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"So, was Fukishima plant safe or not save?"
5 hours ago
ee-tom replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Radiation is one of the great modern fears - irrational to be sure but it ticks all the boxes. Ad2 is just reacting in a typical unthinking human way. Unfortunately those like him have enough political power to prevent construction of modern very…"
6 hours ago
Y_Po replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"There would be not much need for nuclear contamination testing and bans if there were no nuclear plants there. "
13 hours ago
Lensman replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"I won't suggest there isn't a concern, but there is a lot of testing going on. See links I posted above. Either there is a vast conspiracy by all the testers to show fish being sold on the market are safe when they really are not... or…"
13 hours ago
Y_Po replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Fish can swim more than 30 km just fine. And since when fishermen started to comply with bans? And nuclear spills don't have to mix perfectly with ocean water too. "
14 hours ago
Lensman replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
" Funny, that was precisely my reaction to the other thread, entitled "Uncomfortable truths for uranium nuclear power apologists" Which is why I retitled the discussion."
14 hours ago
Wasmaba replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Is it just me, or should the "subject" or "title" of this thread be amended? Jeeze. "Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists""
14 hours ago
Lensman replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Yes. So if Japan didn't have a ban on fishing within 30 km of the Fukushima plant-- or rather, a mandate that any fish caught in that area must be discarded-- then it would be something to worry about. Let's keep in mind that…"
14 hours ago
Y_Po replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Yes, fish hanging around Fukishima and then caught and shipped to US is dangerous."
14 hours ago
Lensman replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"But only immediately adjacent to the source of the leak. Strontium 90, the nucleotide in question, is soluble in water.  Therefore, the further the distance from shore, the lower the level should be. To repeat a citation from the above…"
14 hours ago
Y_Po replied to Lensman's discussion Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists
"Potassium 40 is not safer than "unnatural" radionuclides. It's all about dosage, and in that sense "unnatural" radionuclides  have much higher chance of having high dosage, simply becasue they come from highly…"
14 hours ago
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Inconvenient Facts for Hysterical Anti-Nuclear Apologists

To recap the debate thus far:AD2 posted a link to a hysterical, fear-mongering article which claimed (wrongly) that despite government testing, there are dangerous levels of radioactive materials in fish caught near Japan after the Fukushima accident. A hysterical article blissfully free of any statistics or data on the actual (very low) levels of radioactivity present:AD2 said:And the government's reaction to all of this is to either raise the "safe" level of radiation to which you can be…See More
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Lensman replied to AD2's discussion Uncomfortable truths for uranium nuclear power apologists
"Very occasionally, "student" surprises us and makes a thoughtful post free from propaganda and disinformation. Thanks for the above post, "student"."
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Lensman replied to Yukon's discussion What up with Chat?
"Hey, thanks "student". Wish I had seen that post when I tried to get into chat yesterday. "
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At 10:27pm on June 13, 2012, DowntoEEarth said…

Lens, I have been hitting gas stations for 50 years.  They were there, they were dependable, and they were reasonably cheap for the fuel and service they provided.  I am all for the change to EV's, which will take time and cost me about $700 to set up a 220v plug/charging station in my garage. 

I could never complain about the job the oil industry has done to improve the growth and opportunity to get ahead in this USA.  In essence drilling is mining and is fairly labor intensive providing jobs for all sorts of support and technical industries not to mention the high paying jobs to refine and process petroleum into finished products.  They may have been forced to clean their act up, but they have done so and should continue, but to brush aside a great industry that has made this country great is hogwash.  You protest too much about things that will surely change in time without your or anyone's pushing. Canada and the US owe many of the best jobs still available to the oil and chemical industry.  I hope so, but I am not so confident the EESU will provide the number of jobs we need for some time.  To be cost effective, the EESU will likely be built with considerable automation, which does not put people to work.  I assume the jobs will come from the new products that will be made using this device.  Let us hope so anyway.  Then DW can truly save future generations of our young folks, provide manufacturing jobs and save the USA. 

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